Too many Abraham Grooms - Help!

Hello, Having read a few topics here I have to congratulate you on the service you are providing and I wonder if you can assist me.

I have worked out that my family are descended from an Abraham Groom (b 1841 Eaton Bray) the (2nd?) son of Abraham Groom (b about 1814 Eaton Bray) and I belive a Mary Sturman (b abt 1814 Rickmansworth).  I think their marriage was registered in Luton abt 1838.

So far, so good....

Now it gets a bit complicated. I think that the Abraham Groom (b.1814) was himself the son of yet another Abraham Groom (b about 1781) and I have a hunch that this final Abraham Groom is metioned by name in the transcription of the Will of William Groom that can be found here http://www.willtranscriptions.co.uk/surnames/g-h-i/groom_william_g37.htm. What I really need is some help in proving it to trace back another couple of generations.

One final thing, Is anything else known about the images of "Honeywick works and the Wheelright believed to be Mr. Groom" that were published in the Photos section on www.eatonbray.co.uk (site seems dead now but was ok last week). It's entirely possible that those are photographs of my GGG Grandfather, I'd love to know more.

Looking forward to any light you can shed on these two things for me.

PS. For the benefit of anybody else who ends up here while researching the Abraham Groom b about 1781, It seems he married twice, a first marriage to Mary Smith? at Eaton Bray around 1800, and later a second marriage to Maria Rhodes 1849 registered in Chelsea.  I noticed some researchers have incorrectly assumed that Mary and Maria are the same person because of similarity in the name, but they are not.  Following a summer visit to St. Marys Eaton Bray, I can confirm Mary Groom is buried in St. Marys Church, Eaton Bray with the inscription "In memory of Mary Wife of Abraham Groom who died August 25 1847 aged 72 years". Buried alongside are 2 children of Abraham and Mary, one a William who died May 29 1846 aged 6 and Jane October 12 1852 aged 18 months.  

Hi Lindsay....There are shed loads of Grooms in the Parish Register 1559-1812 for Eaton Bray.There is an Abraham Groom baptised September 10th 1779 the son of William & Ann Groom.Can't find a marriage yet but can post all Grooms on Monday.

MAY 23 1568 AGNES GROOME…
NOV 19 1606 ALICE D OF JOHN GROOME…
MAR 12 1608 JANE D OF JOHN GROOME…
SEP 12 1613 ELENOR D OF JOHN GROOME…
SEP 29 1616 JOAN D OF JOHN GROOME…
MAY 21 1620 ELIZABETH D OF JOHN GROOME…
JULY 29 1621 MARY D OF JOHN GROOME…
FEB 20 1624 ELIZABETH D OF JOHN GROOME…
MAR 14 1626 WILLIAM S OF JOHN GROOME…
MAR 7 1629 THOMAS S OF JOHN GROOME…
DEC 17 1657 JOHN S OF THOMAS & JOAN GROOME…
SEP 12 1660 THOMAS S OF THOMAS & JOAN GROOME…
MAR 2 1661 ANN D OF WILLIAM & MARY GROOM…
OCT 18 1662 WILLIAM S OF THOMAS & JOAN GROOME…
FEB 23 1664 MARY D OF WILLIAM GROOME…
SEP 7 1665 HENRY S OF THOMAS & JOAN GROOME…
DEC 21 1666 WILLIAM S OF WILLIAM & MARY GROOME…
JUNE 10 1667 DANIEL S OF THOMAS & JOAN GROOME…
NOV 14 1668 JOHN S OF WILLIAM & MARY GROOM…
JUNE 26 1669 HENRY S OF THOMAS & JOAN GROOM…
SEP 15 1670 ELIZABETH D OF WILLIAM & MARY GROOM…
OCT 27 1671 JOSEPH S OF THOMAS & JOAN GROOM…
APRIL 1 1672 HENRY S OF WILLIAM & MARY GROOM…
FEB 1 1674 ELIZABETH D OF THOMAS & JOAN GROOM…
JAN 20 1675 ALICE D OF WILLIAM GROOME…
JUNE 22 1677 RICHARD S OF THOMAS & JOAN GROOME…
MAR 27 1680 JAMES S OF THOMAS GROOME…
AUG 28 1692 ABRAHAM S OF WILLIAM & MARY GROOM…
MAR 24 1694 THOMAS S OF DANIEL & SARAH GROOME…
FEB 21 1696 JAMES S OF DANIEL & SARAH GROOME…
APRIL 30 1699 JOSEPH S OF DANIEL GROOM ,TAILOR , BORN APRIL 29…
JULY 4 1731 WILLIAM S OF ABRAHAM & ELIZABETH GROOM,WHEELWRIGHT…
OCT 18 1736 ELIZABETH D OF ABRAHAM & ELIZABETH GROOM,WHEELWRIGHT…
SEP 25 1763 WILLIAM S OF WILLIAM & ANN GROOM…
NOV 3 1765 ANN D OF WILLIAM & ANN GROOM…
OCT 10 1767 ELIZABETH D OF WILLIAM & ANN GROOM…
JULY 23 1769 JOHN S OF WILLIAM & ANN GROOM…
NOV 29 1771 THOMAS S OF WILLIAM & ANN GROOM…
JAN 20 1774 SUSANNA D OF WILLIAM & ANN GROOM…
FEB 7 1776 FANNY D OF WILLIAM & ANN GROOM…
SEP 10 1779 ABRAHAM S OF WILLIAM & ANN GROOM…
JAN 4 1781 MARY D OF WILLIAM & ANN GROOM…
JULY 27 1785 DEBORAH D OF WILLIAM & ANN GROOM…
JULY 27 1794 ELIZABETH D OF JOHN & ANN GROOM…
AUG 25 1799 JOYCE D OF THOMAS & JOYCE GROOM…
APRIL 3 1801 ELIZABETH D OF WILLIAM & ELIZABETH GROOM…
SEP 13 1801 SUSANNAH D OF THOMAS & JOYCE GROOM…

MORE BAPTISMS…
SEP 27 1801 MARY D OF ABRAHAM & MARY GROOM…
NOV 24 1803 WILLIAM S OF WILLIAM & ELIZABETH GROOM…
JAN 15 1804 ANN D OF ABRAHAM & MARY GROOM…
JUNE 10 1804 MARY ANN D OF THOMAS & JOYCE GROOM…
FEB 23 1806 THOMAS S OF ABRAHAM & MARY GROOM…
JUNE 22 1806 ABRAHAM S OF THOMAS & JOYCE GROOM…
MAY 29 1808 SUSANNAH D OF ABRAHAM & MARY GROOM…
SEP 16 1810 JOHN S OF ABRAHAM & MARY GROOM…

MARRIAGES…
OCT 20 1566 THOMAS GROOME TO ALICE JENKENS…
AUG 9 1596 JOHN CUTLAT TO JOAN GROOME…
NOV 28 1605 JOHN GROOME TO JANE WEST…
NOV 19 1635 RICHARD SEYBROOKE TO ALICE GROOME…
MAY 14 1655 THOMAS GROOME TO JOAN TOMPKINS…
APRIL 18 1661 WILLIAM GROOM TO MARY HARTWELL…
FEB 26 1665 THOMAS FOXON TO MARY GROOME…
JULY 4 1687 THOMAS SAMMS TO MARY GROOM…
OCT 27 1691 WILLIAM GROOM TO MARY GREEN…
FEB 28 1699 DANIEL GROOM , WDR , TO FRANCES WEBB , WID,…
MAR 24 1706 WILLIAM GROOM (HUSBANDMAN), WDR , TO SARAH PEDDER , WID BOTH OF EB…
DEC 26 1723 ABRAHAM GROOM , BACH , (CARPENTER) TO ELIZABETH PURSEL , SP , (DAUGHTER OF ROGER PURSEL , CARPENTER)…
MAY 10 1756 JOSEPH COOPER OF TILSWORTH TO ELIZABETH GROOME OF EB…
MAY 7 1785 RICHARD GADSDEN TO ANN GROOM BOTH OF EB…
JUNE 24 1796 WILLIAM HIGBID OF EDLESBOROUGH TO FANNY GROOM OF EB…
NOV 22 1798 THOMAS GROOM TO JOYCE SEABROOK BOTH OF EB…
NOV 19 1801 GEORGE GADSDEN TO MARY GROOM BOTH OF EB…
JAN 24 1811 JAMES STANBRIDGE TO JOYCE GROOM BOTH OF EB…

BURIALS…
JUNE 10 1620 ELIZABETH GROOME…
FEB 20 1641 JANE GRUM???…
JUNE 19 1643 JOHN S OF JOHN GROOME…
MAY 2 1663 JOHN GROOME…
JULY 3 1668 HENRY S OF THOMAS GROOM…
MAY 13 1671 ELIZABETH D OF WILLIAM GROOM…
JULY 15 1673 HENRY S OF WILLIAM GROOM…
OCT 5 1675 ELIZABETH D OF THOMAS & JOAN GROOME…
MAR 19 1684 JOHN S OF THOMAS GRUME???…
JUNE 11 1699 SARAH W OF DANIEL GROOM (TAILOR)…
APRIL 12 1700 JOSEPH S OF DANIEL GROOME (TAILOR)…
SEP 30 1701 JOANNA W OF THOMAS GROOME (HUSBANDMAN)…
FEB 14 1703 WILLIAM GROOM (HUSBANDMAN)…
OCT 20 1704 MARY W OF WILLIAM GROOME (HUSBANDMAN)…
DEC 8 1705 THOMAS GROOM (HUSBANDMAN)…
JAN 21 1719 SARAH W OF WILLIAM GROOM (HUSBANDMAN)…
APRIL 24 1747 MARY GROOME ,WID…
AUG 12 1772 ABRAHAM GROOM…
NOV 14 1783 “WIDOW” GROOM…
DEC 14 1792 WILLIAM GROOM (WHEELWRIGHT)…
NOV 24 1804 WILLIAM S OF WILLIAM & ELIZABETH GROOM…
OCT 22 1806 ABRAHAM S OF THOMAS & JOYCE GROOM…
MAY 3 1807 THOMAS GROOM (UNFORTUNATELY KILLED BY A COW)…
OCT 3 1812 ANN W OF JOHN GROOM…

Wow! Thank you so much. I never expected so many.  Looks like I have lots of work to do now investigating an unfortunate bovine incident in the family. Poor Thomas!

Once again thank you.

Wow i didn't know how many Grooms there were.. dang this is amazing... my family are decendances of Abraham  Groom but i don't know alot about them but i do know that after his son was born they moved from West Virgina ( I can't spell right sorry) to Ohio then they had their daughter. before the daughter was born they had a really large farm land near the mountains and the Shenandoah River.

In my 'Groom' folder I have a page which I believe came from the Parish Magazine some time ago - It is an article on Blacksmiths and Wheelwrights -
... "The Grooms too had a long tradition of being the wheelwrights in the village during the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries They lived in Green end and continued in business until this century.(1900's) when we find a record of samuel groom mortgaging his Wheelwrights Shop and Blacksmiths shop and paint house in 1905".  

Lindsay we must share a family tree

My great grandad Robert Groom m Avis Fountain 1882.
Robert was a son of Abraham & Mary Sturman  M 6th SEPT 1838. He was one of 5 sons and 4 daughters.
Abraham was the son of Abraham Groom who married Mary Smith 13th Feb 1800 They had 3 sons and 3 daughters. I can expand if you are interested  

Hello Jane,  Only just seen your reply.
Please mail me at [email protected].  Looking forward to exchanging information.

i am looking for any info on F.M. Groome from ohio.he went to neosho county kansas in the late 1800 he was my great grandfather. dont know from where in ohio he was from just ohio.please email me if any info

i am looking for any info on F.M. Groome i think this was Ferguson McDonald Groome.from ohio.he went to neosho county kansas in the late 1800 he was my great grandfather. dont know from where in ohio he was from just ohio.please email me if any info

Thanks Jane...i'm really intested in my family history... i have Satterfield and Easter in my family tree too so if you know about them too please let me know

On Angel Fire the history of the Grooms family coming over from England was written by Geneva Evans, my mom! (Geneva G Grooms Evans ( 6-1924 to 12-2011)  She researched it during her numerous UK trips.  I actually found one of our forefathers, a Satterfield buried in Coventry Cathedral!  I took photos and sent to mum!  She did so much research.  I have tried DNA twice=not enough DNA, so trying third time.