January 13, 2010 by Tom n Harry in forum Genealogy / History
#126 Tom n Harry, 13 January 2010, 08:14
One from the visitors book...
I am looking for information on my Grandfather, Thomas Brinklow, who was killed on the Somme in July 1916. He lived in Watford with my Grandmother Violet who migrated to Australia with my father and three sisters after the war. He was born in Hemel Hempstead. Tom Brinklow, Australia.
#127 Tom n Harry, 13 January 2010, 08:19
Found him in 1881 living in Summerleys, Eaton Bray... Thomas Brinklow, Head, M, 26, Aglab, Edlesborough, Bucks... Isabella Brinklow, Wife, M, 24, Bedmond Herts... Anne Brinklow, Daughter, 4, Scholar, Kings Langley, Herts... Thomas Brinklow, Son, 2, Hemel Hempstead, Herts... John Brinklow, Son, 1M, Eaton Bray, Beds.
#128 Tom n Harry, 13 January 2010, 08:28
1891 Census, living in Golden Square, Edlesborough, Bucks...Thomas Brinklow,Head,M,38,Ag Lab,Edlesborough Bucks...Isabella Brinklow,Wife,34,Straw Plaiter,Bedmond herts...Thomas Brinklow,Son,12,Scholar,Bennets End Herts...John Brinklow,Son,10,Scholar,Eaton Bray Beds...Fred Brinklow,Son,7,Scholar,EdlesboroughBucks...Mary Brinklow,Daughter,5,Scholar,Edlesborough Bucks...Arthur Brinklow,Son,2,Edlesborough Bucks...George Brinklow,Son,9M,Edlesborough Bucks.......
#129 Tom n Harry, 13 January 2010, 10:06
Found his service record on Ancestry.......Joined the Bedfordshire Regiment 2nd Battalion on 25th February 1898 aged 19 years and 6 months.Regimental number 6225 enlisting in Bedford. At the time he was a bricklayers labourer living in Boxmoor,Hemel Hempstead having left the family home at 31 Castle Street,Berkhampstead 2 months before.He signed on for 12 years,7 to do and 5 more as an option.On the 20th September 1902 he gained a nursing Certificate. Records show his marriage to Violet Dunton on 2nd March 1907 raising his pay.Marriage was witnessed by Earnest and May Dunton. On 12th February 1910 he signed on for another 4 years and was discharged on 24th February 1914 after serving 16 years mainly in England but also in Dublin.He may also have served overseas but some of the records are very hard to read.He must have joined again later in 1914 as there is a record for his death although I cant find him on the "Roll Of Honour" site. Record reads...Thomas Brinklow born Hemel Hempstead Residence Bedford Death 3rd July 1916 Rank Private Bedfordshire Regiment 2nd Battalion Number 19349 Killed in action France and Flanders.
#145 Tom Brinklow, 17 January 2010, 05:46
Thank you for this information, quite amazing. He is buried in Ovillers war cemetary on the road to Bapaume in a known grave. Many thanks Tom
#309 Louise Brinklow, 12 April 2010, 16:10
Thomas Brinklow - service no 6225 was a a bricklayers labourer prior to joining up. He joined up on 25 Feb 1898 in Bedfordshire regiment. He was only 19 years and 6 months old at the time.
The records state that he was almost 5ft 5" TALL, 124 Ibs with a sallow complexion, brown hair and eyes. He was Church of England.
His next of kin was recorded as Isabella Sherfield (although this is hard to decipher), J*** Brinklow, Annie Waller (sister), Arthur Brinklow and George Brinklow (brothers). His address was noted as 31 Castle Street, Berkhampstead.
His service was extended in 1904 and he was a reserve in 1906 before being reengaged in 1910. He was discharged in 1914 after 16 years.
The records also state that he married Violet Dunton which was witnessed by Ernest & may Dunton.
He achieved a certificate in nursing in 1902.
His conduct was said to be "very good - sober, steady and reliable".
His helmet size was 21.5" and shoe size 8.
He was sent to India on 18 Oct 1899.
he had a few spells in hospital with various ailments which are recorded in the Military records.
He also was in trouble a few times for minor misdemeanors such as having a dirty rifle on parade - he got 8 days CB (what is CB).
I am not sure whether Thomas reenlisted in 1915 (aprox) back in Bedford for the Great War but there are records that indicate a Thomas Brinklow died in the Somme 1916. This Thomas has a different service number but is also part of the Beds regiment. Is this the same person?
#310 Louise Brinklow, 12 April 2010, 16:16
Please could you give me details of Violet and Thomas's children as I dont have their details in my tree and didnt realise she had emigrated to Australia!
Any information / photos etc of the family would be appreciated as no one seems to have kept anything!
#311 Tom n Harry, 12 April 2010, 16:16
Hi Louise...It is the same man.Got the info from his service record on Ancestry.If you would like any more on the Brinklows we may be able to help.
#312 Louise Brinklow, 12 April 2010, 16:24
My email is [email protected]
My husbands grandfather was Leonard Brinklow born in hertfordshire and his father Leonard was born in Eddlesborough / Eaton bray area. I seem to have problems with linking all the Eddlesborough Brinklows together!
I have a Thomas B 1815 and David 1813 (brothers) whose parents were John (1780) and Mary Janes. Thomas married Amy Scrivner but somewhere along the line she seems to be living with David as his wife? Very confusing. I dont know if David ever married (not a record for Amy).
I wonder if I have contaminated my own information!
#313 Tom n Harry, 12 April 2010, 16:27
Found a birth...Ruby C Brinklow,reg Watford June 1915,mothers maiden name Dunton,vol 3a page 1634....I think Tom still visits the site so maybe he will have more for you.
#314 Tom n Harry, 12 April 2010, 16:29
Sorry,we keep posting at the same time...I will see what we can find .
#315 Tom n Harry, 12 April 2010, 18:05
I see in 1861 census David & Amy living together with father John.I think whoever transcribed the record thinks that David is married to Amy as she is down as daughter in law,but that would be to the head which is John.She is not down as a widow but there are 2 deaths reg Leighton Buzzard for a Thomas Brinklow between 1851 & 1861 census.One is September 1851 & the other is June 1855.Even though Edlesborough is in Bucks the registration district at the time was in Beds..........I have Parish Records for Eaton Bray 1559-1812 and there are many records for Brinklows.Will post them if you want them.
#316 Tom n Harry, 12 April 2010, 18:30
On your Genes posting you have Amy of Woburn.1851 gives her as born Edlesborough,61 & 71 as born Whipsnade Beds.
#317 Tom n Harry, 12 April 2010, 19:10
1881 census Northall Rd Eaton Bray ???? Brinklow head,70,Edlesborough Bucks...David Brinklow brother,71 Edlesborough Bucks...Levi Carter,lodger...The entry for the head is transcribed as Henry or Nancy but at a stretch it could be Amy.At the top of Northall Rd was The 5 Bells and White Horse.Writing on original entries seems to get worse after they pass a pub....Poss deaths...Amy Brinklow reg LB March 1882 vol 3b page 282 aged 72...David Brinklow reg LB December 1889 vol 3b page 285 aged 78...John Brinklow reg LB June 1871 vol 3b page 254 aged 91.
#320 Louise Brinklow, 14 April 2010, 14:20
Thanks for all the info - I habnt thought that the census administrator assumed that David and Amy were man and wife!
I would love to see Parish records for the area as I know there were lots of Brinklow's around!
Funny how the writing gets worse after visiting the pub isnt it!!!!
Its good to know there were some Brinklow males on this line who got to old age - unfortunately my husbands line don't make it past 65! I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
#321 Tom n Harry, 14 April 2010, 14:26
We only have one pub left now so next census should be clearer.Emailed Tom and hopefully he will reply...Will post Brinklow parish records later as I have 3 teenagers all trying to get on line at the same time and its my turn last.
#322 Tom Brinklow, 15 April 2010, 10:30
Thomas and Violets children were Dorothy, Gladys, Ruby, and my father Stanley Thomas Brinklow. All are now deceased.
#323 Tom n Harry, 15 April 2010, 10:40
Were they all born in England?
#324 Tom n Harry, 15 April 2010, 11:40
All records spelt as transcribed...BAPTISMS...OCT 31 1650 ELIZABETH DAUGHTER OF JOHN BRINKLOW...ND 1652 JANE DAUGHTER OF JOHN & ELIZABETH BRINCKLOW...MAR 27 1657 JOHN SON OF JOHN & ELIZABETH BRINKLOW...DEC 26 1688 RICHARD SON OF JEFFREY & ELIZABETH BRINKLOW...JUNE 9 1690 WILLIAM SON OF JEFFREY & ELIZABETH BRINKLOW...AUG 16 1696 ELIZABETH DAUGHTER OF JEFFREY & ELIZABETH BRINKLOW...FEB 28 1702 ANN DAUGHTER OF JEFFREY & ELIZABETH BRINCKLOW BORN FEB 1...JUNE 20 1705 SARAH DAUGHTER OF JEFFREY & ELIZABETH BRINCLO, FARMER...JAN 30 1730 JOHN SON OF RICHARD & SUSANNA BRINKLOR...OCT 15 1732 SUSANNA DAUGHTER OF RICHARD & SUSANNA BRINKLOR...MAR 9 1733 RICHARD SON OF RICHARD & SUSANNA BRINKLOR, FARMER...SEP 1 1737 WILLIAM SON OF RICHARD & SUSANNA BRINKLOW, FARMER...FEB 23 1739 SUSANNA DAUGHTER OF RICHARD & SUSANNA BRINCKLOW, FARMER...MAR 30 1741 ANN DAUGHTER OF RICHARD & SUSANNA BRINCKLOW, FARMER...MAR 25 1744 THOMAS SON OF RICHARD & SUSANNA BRINCKLOW, FARMER...FEB 8 1746 ELIZABETH DAUGHTER OF RICHARD & SUSANNA BRINCKLOW, FARMER...JAN 6 1749 JEFFREY SON OF RICHARD & SUSANNA BRINCKLOW, FARMER...OCT 10 1755 SUSANNA DAUGHTER OF RICHARD & SUSANNA BRINKLOW...APRIL 19 1772 SARAH DAUGHTER OF RICHARD & ANN BRINKLOW...APRIL 7 1773 THOMAS SON OF RICHARD & ANN BRINKLOW...MAY 1 1774 RICHARD SON OF RICHARD & ANN BRINKLOW...JUNE 2 1776 ANN DAUGHTER OF RICHARD & ANN BRINKLOW...APRIL 1 1787 WILLIAM ILLIGIT SON OF WILLIAM BRINKLOW...JUNE 29 1788 SUSANNA DAUGHTER OF WILLIAM & MARY BRINKLOW...MAR 7 1790 RICHARD SON OF WILLIAM & MARY BRINKLOW...MAR 24 1793 ELIZABETH DAUGHTER OF WILLIAM & MARY BRINKLOW...APRIL 10 1796 REBECCA DAUGHTER OF THOMAS & MARY BRINKLOW...JULY 23 1797 GEOFFREY SON OF THOMAS & MARY BRINKLOW...SEP 15 1799 MARY ANN DAUGHTER OF THOMAS & MARY BRINKLOW OCT 19 1800 SARAH DAUGHTER OF WILLIAM & MARY BRINKLOW...JAN 17 1802 JAMES SON OF THOMAS & MARY BRINKLOW...MAR 4 1804 JESSE SON OF THOMAS & MARY BRINKLOW...MAY 4 1806 HANNAH DAUGHTER OF THOMAS & MARY BRINKLOW...JAN 20 1807 WILLIAM SON OF WILLIAM & MARY BRINKLOW...MAY 21 1809 MARIA DAUGHTER OF THOMAS & MARY BRINKLOW...APRIL 14 1811 SUSAN DAUGHTER OF THOMAS & MARY BRINKLOW...FEB 5 1812 ABEL SON OF THOMAS & MARY BRINKLOW...MAY 17 1812 RICHARD BRINKLOW,ILLEGT...Thats all on baptisms , marriages to follow.
#325 Tom n Harry, 15 April 2010, 12:10
MARRIAGES...APRIL 10 1673 THOMAS MARTIN TO ELIZABETH BRINKLOW...JULY 23 1673 RICHARD COOK TO JANE BRINKLOW...FEB 24 1722 JOHN FOUNTAIN ,SHOEMAKER TO ELIZABETH BRINKLOR BOTH OF EATON BRAY...NOV 29 1731 JOHN TURPIN , SHOEMAKER TO SARAH BRINKLOW...MAY 14 1787 WILLIAM BRINKLOW TO MARY MILLER BOTH OF EATON BRAY...OCT 29 1792 MICHAEL PUDDEFOOT TO SARAH BRINCKLOW BOTH OF EATON BRAY...AUG 6 1795 THOMAS BRINKLOW TO MARY GEORGE BOTH OF EATON BRAY...APRIL 1 1796 THOMAS GADSDEN TO ELIZABETH BRINKLOW BOTH OF EATON BRAY...DEC 1 1803 JAMES WOOTTON TO SUSANNA BRINKLOW BOTH OF EATON BRAY...SEP 10 1812 JOHN BRINKLOW OF EDLESBOROUGH TO MARY JANES OF EATON BRAY...burials to follow.
#326 Tom n Harry, 15 April 2010, 12:42
BURIALS...JAN 14/24 1681 JOHN SON OF JOHN BRINKLURE...FEB 6/8 1683 JOHN BRINKLURE...FEB 1 1688 RICHARD SON OF JEFFREY & ELIZABETH BRINKLOW...JULY 2 1689 ELIZABETH BRINKLOW, WIDOW...JUNE 12 1693 ELIZABETH BRINKLOW...MAR 19 1697 ROBERT BRINCLO...JAN 1 1724 ELIZABETH WIFE OF GEOFFREY BRINKLOR, HUSBANDMAN...SEP 3 1728 GEOFFREY BRINKLOR HUSBANDMAN...OCT 25 1732 SUSANNA DAUGHTER OF RICHARD & SUSANNA BRINKLOR...MAR 23 1739 SUSANNA DAUGHTER OF RICHARD & SUSANNA BRINKLOW, FARMER...AUG 11 1766 ELIZABETH BRINKLOW...NOV 29 1773 RICHARD BRINKLOW...NOV 25 1774 RICHARD BRINKLOW, JNR...NOV 15 1777 ANN BRINKLOW...MAY 19 1782 "WIDOW" BRINKLOW...NOV 25 1787 WILLIAM BRINKLOW...JUNE 15 1796 REBECCA DAUGHTER OF THOMAS & MARY BRINKLOW...OCT 6 1796 STILLBORN CHILD OF WILLIAM & MARY BRINKLOW...APRIL 3 1798 STILLBORN OF WILLIAM & MARY BRINKLOW...AUG 7 1799 STILLBORN CHILD OF WILLIAM & MARY BRINKLOW...JAN 26 1802 JAMES SON OF THOMAS & MARY BRINKLOW...NOV 12 1803 ANN WIFE OF RICHARD BRINKLOW...OCT 9 1807 RICHARD BRINKLOW...JULY 14 1809 MARIA DAUGHTER OF THOMAS & MARY BRINKLOW...NOV 30 1812 RICHARD BRINKLOW, INF, BAST...
#327 Tom n Harry, 15 April 2010, 12:53
CHURCHWARDENS...JOHN BRINCKLOW 1662-64...JOHN BRINCKLOW 1668-69...JEFFREY BRINKLOW 1690-91...JEFFREY BRINKLOR 1725-26...RICHARD BRINKLOW 1795-96.
#328 Tom n Harry, 15 April 2010, 13:20
Posible births for Thomas & Violets children...Dorothy Lillian reg Berkhampsted sept 1907 3a 907...Gladys Violet reg Berkhampsted mar 1909 3a 873...Stanley Thomas reg Berkhampsted 1911 3a 907...Ruby C reg Watford june 1915 3a 1634.
#329 Tom Brinklow, 20 April 2010, 08:11
Yes, Dorothy, Gladys, Ruby and Stanley Brinklow my father were all born in England as far as I know
#332 Louise Brinklow, 22 April 2010, 12:24
Wow - so much info all at once! The spelling of the name has changed through history too, maybe I should look up the other spelling. Thanks so much for all of this.
I have been trying to link the Jeffrey Brinklow and Richard Brinklow side of the family to mine John Brinklow & Mary Janes and their children: David 1915, Thomas 1913 & Susan 1917.
Do you have any ideas where the link might be - there has to be one somewhere in such a small community!
#333 Tom n Harry, 22 April 2010, 13:32
Dont think the name has changed it was just how they were transcribed into hard copy..
Cant seem to find any birth reg for Johns children.Do you know where they were born?
Will try to find how you conect with Jeffrey & Richard...
#334 Tom n Harry, 22 April 2010, 14:00
Looking 100 years too late...
Thomas Brinklow 27/06/1813...
David Brinklow 20/03/1815...
Susan Brinklow 17/04/1817...
All at Edlesborough and all with parents John 7 Mrs Mary Brinklow...
Found a possible baptism for John 1787 Edlesborough.Mother Mrs Mary Brinklow no father.Problem with this is that it is not an extracted record.
#335 Tom n Harry, 22 April 2010, 14:04
Have you birth dates & places for Jeffrey & Richard.
#336 Tom Brinklow, 22 April 2010, 14:56
Hullo Louise, I am a little confused are we linked through the Brinklows or is that what you are trying to establish?
#338 Tom n Harry, 22 April 2010, 15:24
Skip the last baptism for John.......
This one looks more like it...John Brinklow 17/05/1789 Stanbridge Beds.Transcribed as Stansbridge.Father Thomas Brinkler and mother Elizabeth Fowler.
#339 Tom Brinklow, 22 April 2010, 15:26
My cousin, Ruby's son advises that Violet arrived in Australia in 1928 with her children. Not sure if this is accurate but I believe they were in Brisbane initially then travelled south to Sydney NSW where they settled. My grandmother Violet never remarried and settled in Ryde a suburb of Sydney. Dorothy married Earnest Rolfe and lived in Forrestville, Gladys married Les Barney and lived in Willoughby, Ruby married Keith Hunter and also lived in Willoughby, Stanley married my mother Patricia and we lived in Willoughby for several years before moving.
#340 Tom n Harry, 22 April 2010, 15:33
Marriage...Thomas Brinklow to Elizabeth Fowler 30/12/1773 Leighton Buzzard Beds...Birth Thomas 1748 Stanbridge, birth Elizabeth 1752 Stanbridge.Birth records not extracted.
#341 Tom n Harry, 22 April 2010, 15:34
Sorry Tom , Louise....I Seem to be posting same time.
#342 Tom n Harry, 22 April 2010, 16:08
There are the unextracted baptims for Stanbridge but these look more likely....Thomas Brinklow 25/03/1744 Eaton Bray.Parents Richard & Susanna Brinklow...Elizabeth Fowler 20/06/1742 Eaton Bray daughter of Mary Fowler of Totternhoe.
#350 Tom Brinklow, 1 May 2010, 13:31
Louise if I can help you with any info on my side of the family please let me know. Like you said its not easy. But I do find it fascinating
#354 Louise Brinklow, 6 May 2010, 15:32
Sorry - I havent checked back in a while.
Tom - I have emailed with ancestry link under separate cover.
I will wade my way through this new info - thanks so much for your help - it really is appreciated!
#367 Tom Brinklow, 20 May 2010, 11:10
I would just like to thank Tom n Harry for all the information they supplied to me about my family, it has helped plug the gaps that were previously unknown to me and other members of my extended Australian family. Many thanks.
#649 Deodat van zyl, 15 November 2010, 11:11
was there any brinklows in south
africa my mothers name was florence brinklow
#650 Tom n Harry, 15 November 2010, 12:11
Hi Deodat....Do you have a birth year for your mother or her father? Any information you have may help like when the family emigrated.
#832 Christine Phillipson nee Brinklow., 26 March 2011, 21:03
I am the direct descendant of Thomas Brinklow and Amy Scrivenor whose son Thomas married Isabella Sherfield.They had 10 children Arthur[my grandfather],Fred,
Mary, Anne and Edward.
31,Castle Street was called Brinklows Sweet Shop in the early 1900s
#838 Mavis Russell nee Coates, 27 March 2011, 12:23
I too am a direct descendant. Arthur had 4 children Ron, Ray (Christine's Father) Margery Olive and Dorothy Phyllis Joan. My Mother was Dorothy who married Austin Coates from Mawdesley in Lancashire. They had 6 girls, myself Jennifer, Susan, Judith, Jayne and Frances.
#844 Susan Appleby nee Coates, 28 March 2011, 23:55
Interesting that I am not the first to come to Australia to live. I also live in NSW, and my daughter, Marie lives in Brisbane, with her family. We have been here for 20 yrs, my grandfather was Arthur brinklow, married to Florence, my mother was Dorothy Brinklow, married to Austin Coates.
#931 Tom Brinklow, 30 June 2011, 21:24
Haven't posted for a while. Hullo fellow descendants of Thomas Brinklow. Thomas Brinklow born in 1879 is my grandfather. His parents are Thomas and Isabella, my great gradparents. Any information from other descendnts would be welcomed. I live in Copacabana NSW Australia.
#932 Tom Brinklow, 30 June 2011, 21:26
Haven't posted for a while. Hullo fellow descendants of Thomas Brinklow. Thomas Brinklow born in 1879 is my grandfather. His parents are Thomas and Isabella, my great gradparents. Any information from other descendnts would be welcomed. I live in Copacabana NSW Australia.
#941 Judith Wenck, 16 July 2011, 11:00
I am looking for a link to an Phoebe Olive Brinklow ( nee Manchee) who lived in Turramurra , ( around 1954 - 56 and possible much later)and had two children, Melanie and Zara. Phoebe Brinklow had a later address at Ryedale House, Paterson. I am searching for what happened to her sister Lilian Manchee, who left home and 4 children in around 1936.
Does anyone know anything?
Thanks so much, Judith Wenck ( nee Manchee - by birth - but adopted 1936. I think my grandfather's name was Frank Manchee. I am 75 years old, and am anxious to find out what happened to my mother. She was married to Frederick Everard Watt, and once lived in Quirindi.)
#1295 Susan Gwynne nee Brinklow, 15 August 2012, 18:48
Re THe Brinklow Family Eddlesborough. I have only just started to collate information and though I have managed My mothers side of the family ...my fathers is 'something of a challenge'.
I can't find much beyond my Great Grandfather - Walter Brinklow who was Born in Eddlesborough 'Gt Berkhamsted' 05/07/1892 and Died in Hemel Hempstead (1976)... (Married Ruth Bayliss in 1917 (Many children - One being 'Bera Brinklow' My Nan (THough I never met her...long storey)...My dad was bought up by Walter. (So verbal info is limited)
I have seen a Census for 1911 that shows a Walter Brinklow of the right age Living with his mother and siblings... though this shows a MRs 'Clark' and no Father figure (Leaving me a little stumped.
I am looking forward to taking a proper read through all of the above - though skimming it does mention a number of things that make me think this could be linked to 'My Brinklows' One being the address (Assuming I have the correct Walter Brinklow)..I can not find another to fit the bill.
Any info You might have that could help me I would be most greatfull for. I have managed to find a couple of Generations dow the Ruth Bayliss line. Also in the limited chance I could be of help to someone then please let me know.
#1296 Susan Gwynne nee Brinklow, 15 August 2012, 18:50
Sorry - My hands were faster than my brain (Or vice Verse)...One of Walters Daughters was Vera (Not Bera).
#1297 Tom n Harry, 16 August 2012, 10:58
As Walter doesn't appear until 1901 census I searched for older brother Fred and found him living in Edlesborough in 1891 with father Thomas born 1855 Edlesborough Bucks and mother Isabella born Bedmond Herts.
Thomas die's 1896 and in 1897 Isabella marries Caleb Clarke who is shown in 1901 census living in Gt Berkhampsted.
#1298 Susan Gwynne nee Brinklow, 16 August 2012, 14:48
Ahh.... THANK YOU!! This answers a lot!! I am new to this so had not thought 'outside the box' on that
(Like to think I would have eventually :O).
I look forward to putting some meat on the bones of the info I have. I may just take a wander to Castle Street next time I'm in the area (Family still live close by)... I will hopefully still be able to see what used to be 'Brinklows sweet shop' (If and when I do I will send/link a picture!)
Thank you again.
#1306 Susan Gwynne nee Brinklow, 23 August 2012, 13:07
Aggh..Help (pretty please)After speaking to my mum (Just after this last contact and being quite certain I had the rigjt Dob Details etc) I was told my Gt Grandfather 'Walter Brinklow' Might NOT have had his death registered in Hemel (He was buried here so thought that to be fact)...SO I may not have the right Walter Brinklow (Based much of what I had on him being the only one I could find in the right area (As he lived here all his life). I would love it if someone could tell me IF the Walter Brinklow (bn 1892 to Thomas Brinklow & Isabella) here married a Ruth Bayliss?? (This would clear up my confusion).
Long story - and much to research yet but It would appear from the few snippets I know, that 'my Walter' could well be one and the same - but if not is still likely to be linked to the general 'clan' above...but I can not be certain as to the 1892 Walter definately being the 'right one' after being given that small snippet. Still new to all this so without a new Census release after Walter was married I have little choice but to hope someone knows something (OR last resort order the Marriage certificate and hope its not in vain).
#1307 Tom n Harry, 23 August 2012, 16:47
Can you tell me if Vera had brothers and sisters please.
#1308 Tom n Harry, 23 August 2012, 17:04
I have found Brinklow born with maiden name Bayliss.
Walter J 1919
Bessie V 1920
Walter j 1922
Doris M 1925
Ada M 1931
Peter A 1936
#1311 Susan Gwynne nee Brinklow, 24 August 2012, 13:15
Yes - thats the one..
#1312 Susan Gwynne nee Brinklow, 25 August 2012, 11:45
A little more research -
I THINK I have narrowed this to one of two options (Both direct Decendants of Thomas Brinklow and Amy Scrivener)... One possible is the 1892 Walter - Grandson of Above...the other is possibly Walter Brinklow Son of Elizabeth BRINLOW (Igelitimate by the looks) as found on 1911 Census Hemel area living with Elizabeth (Now Hill) 'Son of Wife' Elizabeth being the daughter of William Brinklow C1843 who is the son of Thomas and Amy... The two Walters are only a few years apart in Birth And death and so lacking the DoB and Marriage certificate I can't confirm which is which...If there is any info available that would confirm (or otherwise) any of the above I would be most grateful.
#1313 Tom n Harry, 25 August 2012, 18:18
Have been searching and getting nowhere.
Best offer I can give you at the moment is for you to order the marriage cert for Walter and Ruth which was registered in Hemel Hempstead March 1917 volume 3a page 1299.
#1314 Tom n Harry, 25 August 2012, 18:21
Marriage cert should give fathers name and occupation.
#1315 Tom n Harry, 25 August 2012, 18:36
Any stories in the family of Walter serving in WW1?
#1316 Tom n Harry, 26 August 2012, 09:13
Did Ruth die in 1973 Hemel.
#1321 Sue , 29 August 2012, 08:21
Thank you again :)...He is proving 'difficult :}...I will have to purchase the marriage record I think - I am going to Hemel today and will be seeking the burial place of Ruth (And Walter).. I know Ruth died in Hemel and was (I think) buried at Woodwells. I do recal visiting her in Highfield in Hemel in my early years to think she may well have died in 1973 (The only on line record I could find).
I will update if I find anything relevant :}
Thank you again
#1330 Sue , 29 August 2012, 19:16
Well..Lots of rain and two 'soggy feet' later - Still none the wiser - I found the burial plot (Where both Ruth and Walter rest) in Woodwells Cemetary, however Walters name place is blank. Ruth Died in March 1973 Age 75 (So at least that has been confirmed :)
#1331 Tom n Harry, 29 August 2012, 20:25
Woodwells should have records of all of the burial plots. If you think Walter is buried with Ruth they should be able to give you details. Failing that, the local council should know.
#1332 Sue , 30 August 2012, 08:02
Thats Brilliant. Yes - He is, so I will try that first.. And failing that will order a copy of marriage cert.
Thank you Very Much (again :O)
#1333 Susan Gwynne nee Brinklow, 30 August 2012, 10:58
'Tom & Harry'... You are 'stars' ~I have called the cemetery and been given 'the most useful' info (Which confirms WHY I was so confused...though now leads me to one of my 'hunch' Walters...
Walter - buried in the same grave as Ruth (his Wife) was buried as' Walter Thomas Brinklow' in January 1979 (Though when the grave was purchaed the owner named him as 'Walter John' (Which is the name he gave to one of his sons)...Also on the marriage cert he is recorded as Walter W Brinklow...no wonder I was getting a headache! Anyway! (perhaps Walter T,J,W...??) This appears to narrow the field somewhat and leads me to look further at him possibly being one and same as from the one Death cert 'Walter Thomas Briklow' that I found for 1979 (He died in Teddington and this Registration of the one found is North Surrey?) Anyway - I think he may be 'Illegitimate son' of Elizabeth Brinkow Bn 1898- Daughter of William (Son of Amy and Thomas from Eddlesborough... This would match up with the 'hearsay' from the only elderly living relative. I'm now off to see if I can find a Birth Cert that would help :O)
THANK YOU !!
#1681 Kay Wiles, 13 May 2013, 14:14
I've just discovered this site as I'm researching my family history from Eaton Bray area.
Ann Brinklow b1702-52 was my 6xGreat Grandmother, who married John Gadsden. I am so pleased to see some more detail - well done to all those who have contributed so far. I will add the info to my tree.
#2080 Kathryn Cratchley nee Saunders nee Rolfe nee Brinklow, 22 June 2014, 12:28
Hi, just happened to find this site, I too am a descendant of Thomas Brinklow and Violet Brinklow my great grandparents, I have always heard the stories of Stanley dying at the battle of Somme, I believe the only thing left from his death was his leather dog tag!! my cousin I believe has this item, she also has a few letters he sent to our grandmother from the battlefields telling her of his desire to home with his little family!! It has been very interesting reading about his family. Violet Brinklow lived to a very old age, never remarried was very I dependant and a very hard worker. Kathryn. Cratchley
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