Sibley

I have various ancesters of my Sibley family being baptised and married in Eaton Bray around 1600. I have Henry Sibley born 1631 who married Adria Cutlet and his father Richard Sibley born c1600 who married Agnes Turpin. Henry had 2 sisters that I know of, Agnes and Marie.
Can anyone tell me if there are any records of Sibleys going back further.

Wendy McQuilkin (nee Sibley)

Names are spelt as transcribed in parish records 1559-1812...Baptisms...May 30 1583 Andrew son of William Siblie...June 20 1589 Elizabeth daughter of William Siblie...May 22 1631 Henry William son of Richard Sibly...July 14 1634 Agnes daughter of Richard Sybley...Sept 16 1638 Mary daughter of Richard Sibley...Nov 30 1671 Adrea daughter of Henry & Adrea Sibley...Aug 25 1674 Henry son of Henry & Adrea Sibley...Oct 3 1677 George son of Henry & Adrea Sibley...

Marriages...Dec 3 1581 William Siblie to Mary Buckmaster...Feb 25 1627 Richard Sible to Annis Turpin...Jan 7 1658 Ralph Partridge to Agnes Sibley...June 28 1662 Henry Sibley to Adrea Cutlett...

Thanks very much for that. Is there any reference anywhere to the parents of Richard Sibley c1600?

Wendy

Burials...May 15 1669 Richard Sibley...Sept 16 1670 Unbaptised son of Henry & Adrea Sibley...Mar 6 1677 George son of Henry & Adrea Sibley...Aug 14 1684 Henry Sibley...May 5 1713 Audrey Sibley of Billington,widow...Dec 29 1719 Henry son of Henry & Sarah Sibley...Nov 8 1734 Henry Sibley,Farmer...Aug 25 1747 Sarah Sibley,spinster...Feb 3 1769 Sarah Sibley of Billington...June 28 1782 Henry Sibley...Sep 27 1792 William Sybley...

Nothing for parents of Richard c1600...There is another entry for Henry Sibley as a church warden from 1675-1677...Also found an entry on the "Absent Voters List" 1918 for John Cecil Sibley who lived in Bower Lane and was serving as a driver in the 54th Division Signals,service number528065.

Thanks very much for your help.

Wendy

There is a tree on Ancestry that gives Richard Sibley 1600-1669 father as William Sibley born 1579 Eaton Bray Beds.Death 1617 Bradpole Dorset.Mother is given as Eleanor Edwards born 1579 Somerset.Although William is not in parish records for 1579 he may have been baptised elsewhere or not at all.

You may get some info from Beds Records Office Tel 01234 226633,[email protected] always helpful .

Found a Sibley on the absent voters list for 1918-19 serving in the army.Could be related!!...Sibley , John Cecil , living Bower Lane , Service Number 528065 , Driver 54th Division Signals.

Sibley
There used to be a David Sibley living in EB in the 60's, but don't know where he moved to. Probably in his late 50's now

Sibley
My Mary Sibley born 1710 Houton Regis Bedfordshire married Thomas Tearle born 1710 Bedfordshire.   Can anyone enlarge on this family.

Hi Annette

Found on Family Search...
Baptism..

23rd August 1741 John Tearle
29th October 1749 William Tearle
19th May 1754 Richard Tearle
All born to parents Thomas Tearle and Mary Sibley in Stanbridge Beds.
Thomas and Mary married 27th May 1730 in Stanbridge.
Thomas burial 19th March 1755 and Mary burial 25th March 1792.
Will check in Stanbride Parish Records when I can as the dates for children look as though there are more of them.

Sorry Annette

Marriage was in Leighton Buzzard and burial's in Stanbridge.

Hi Annette,

Have done a lot of work on the Sibleys and can send you a Gedcom of all of Mary's ancestry if you like. If you come through Richard Gadsden and Elizabeth Tale/Turrill then Mary Sibley is not your ancestor. See the end of the next paragraph.

I come through the son Thomas Tearle 1737 and Susanna Atwell. For more on the Tearles, you might want to join the Tearle site on Yahoo.com. You have to join Yahoo, but that is free. Then go to groups.yahoo.com/group/tearle and on the right side click on Subscribe. Give your relationship to the Tearles and one of the two main members has to ok your membership. We have the main family line back to 1610, but if you come through Elizabeth 1735 of Eaton Bray not 1734 of Edlesborough who married Richard Gadsden then that is a separate line which I believe has been added also. Her parents were John Tale 1704 and Elizabeth Forsket md 4 Jan 1726 Studham.

My guess for the parents of Richard Sibley: There is a baptism for a Richard Sibley on 9 Jul 1592 in the adjoining parish of Studham, but no parents are listed. Comparing names in all the families in Studham to Richard's family, I think the most likley couple are Henry Sibley & Ellen Smith who married in Rickmansworth, Herts. in 1575. The rest of the date is not readable. Henry was buried 10 Feb 1596/97 in Studham. This is still just a guess. I see pedigrees with just a year (1665) for Richard's grandson John who was Mary Sibley's father. A cousin has found his christening in Ivinghoe and I found a brother Richard there also. Some have also combined the family of this Henry and Adrea with a family of Henry & ? in Tilsworth having children overlapping. I have been able to prove to my satisfaction that these are two separate families.  The most important of the proofs are the burials of all four adults. Our two were buried by full name in Eaton Bray in 1684 & 1713, Adrea after dying in Billington, residence of two of her children. The Tilsworth couple were buried in Tilsworth, with the wife as just Widow. Also at least one of the children in the Tilsworth family are too close in age to one in the Eaton Bray family to be biologically possible.

Hope this is helpful.  

I am connected to the same line of Sibley's as the Wendy above. My Sibley's later ended up in Hillingdon, Middx and Hayes, Middx. Reading your thoughts on there been two families in the area of Eaton Bray. I am now wondering if my William Sibley who also had a son called William born October 14th 1734 in Hillingdon, was part of the Tilsworth group and not as Wendy has on her tree Henry and Andrea. A tree on the internet for Henry Sibley 1631-1684 may have merge the Tilsworth and Eaton Bray information together. What do you think? Is there any baptism record for a William Sibley in the Eaton bray area other than at Tilsworth 1667?

Hi Jenny,

Your William Sibley born 1734 was not the son of a William. He was baptized 23 Jun 1734 in Houghton Regis, Bedfordshire to John Sibley and Mary Messendor or Toby. Other members of his father's family also went to Hillingdon and all his siblings and parents had died by 1754. The fact that William 1734 named his first son John is another indication. The next child William was named for his father-in-law. John Sibley was baptized 11 Nov 1694 GR to John Sibley and Jane Whitehead and married 28 Apr 1726 in Studham to Mary Messender or Toby. John Sr. was a son of Henry and Adrea baptized Ivinghoe, Buckinghamshire 13 Apr 1665. The Henry of Tilsworth had one son William but he was born and died in 1661.  

Thank you Charlotte for taking the trouble to reply and clearing up my query.

Sorry Charlotte to bother you again. Another query. I have just looked at my tree again. I am descended from the Charles Sibley bp Hillingdon 31. 1. 1808. Died 25.4. 1869 Hillingdon. He married Charlotte Beecham(Various spellings). I have his father as being George Sibley bp 11.2. 1770 and Elizabeth MARTIN. His father was William Sibley 1734.
who married Elizabeth HAWKINS at Houghton Regis. Now I found on Ancestry, another William Sibley b1696 at Hillingdon, who was a Quaker. He married an Elizabeth and then a Mary Russell,  who was widowed twice, (Cook, Russell) maiden name Saunders. Marriage Hillingdon 7 Nov, 1752.  Do you think then that this William Sibley, born 1696 at Hillingdon has nothing to do with my William born 1734? Quaker records show the birth of a William in 1734 at Hillingdon to the Quaker William. Are the Quaker Sibley's a different Sibley family? Thanks a a lot for your help.

Do you know roughly when the Sibley's left Houghton Regis  for Hillingdon and why?

Sibley,

I am from the family of Arthur Sibley family lived in harfield middesex, think earlier family were from the eton bray area

Jenny,

Sorry to be so slow. I was not aware of the Quaker family, but that explains where the spurious parents came from on other trees. I still am confident in my connections as explained above. I can't see that I mentioned one other significant fact. William Sibley and Elizabeth Hawkins had a son Michael. That was the name of the older brother of William of Houghton Regis who left him a bequest in his will. Sorry, other than to join other family members, don't know of any reason for members of this family to go to Hillingdon area.

I did look at the Quaker records but doesn't explain why William would go to Houghton Regis to marry in an Anglican church. Whereas it makes sense if the couple knew each other before he left for Hillingdon.

Charlotte  

Joanna,

I checked my database and can't identify your Arthur of Harfield. Can you give me more details, dates if possible and places where born & married. Also point me to census records.

Thanks

Thanks Charlotte for all your help. The Quaker William Sibley would appear to be a different line, originating from London.

My ancestor William sermon of Whipsnade died intestate in 1745 and the admon  of jan 1746  has his wife ann applying for his money. Ann is nee Arslin ( many spellings Asslin Astin,, aslin, etc). The bondsmen are Thomas hoar husbandman of Flamstead who was Ann's  brother law, married to Mary Arslin , and William Sibley, cordwainer of kings houghton which  I take it is Houghton Regis. My guess  is that William Sibley was born 1705 to 1710. I wondered what the connection might be and if you knew more about William? I can't see any evidence he was m to an Arslin.

Does anyone have any info on George Sibley, artist and illustrator, who lived in Eaton Bray with my Aunty Eva?

Re 10 Aug 2015 message from Cmcjbj

My, it has been a long time since I read through these messages. The William Sibley to whom you refer would have been a brother to the John in the earlier query. He would be son of John Sibley and Jane Whitehead. There is no baptism for him, but he is mention in the wills of his father and sister Jane and his will listed younger sisters. I estimate his birth about 1703. At that time he may have been married to a Katherine ____, no marriage found, but a Katherine Sibley was buried shortly before his marriage to a widow Alice Rowbotham Cooper in 1861. Do your Arslins have a Katherine?

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Thanks

Re 10 Aug 2015 message from Cmcjbj

My, it has been a long time since I read through these messages. The William Sibley to whom you refer would have been a brother to the John in the earlier query. He would be son of John Sibley and Jane Whitehead. There is no baptism for him, but he is mention in the wills of his father and sister Jane and his will listed younger sisters. I estimate his birth about 1703. At that time he may have been married to a Katherine ____, no marriage found, but a Katherine Sibley was buried shortly before his marriage to a widow Alice Rowbotham Cooper in 1761. Do your Arslins have a Katherine?

Administrator - Will you please alert this party that a response has been sent or send me her E-Mail so that I may do so.
Thanks

#3445 Sue Jewell, 15 September 2016, 20:35

Does anyone have any info on George Sibley, artist and illustrator, who lived in Eaton Bray with my Aunty Eva?

Only a little. Feel free to contact me.  David.